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  If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?

  by Crisis of Conscience in

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  this is my biggest dilema.

  although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.

  i love people!.

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  When I wrote this originally, I really felt it would be hard to leave my "friends". But as many have pointed out, THEY are the ones leaving us.

  00DAD, you are right, if it is conditional, it ain't love!

  The strange part is that so far, despite my inactivity, no one (or perhaps, I haven't noticed) has cut me off. I have shared my feelings with several close "friends", which I know is not always a good idea. But generally, I have always been well liked by everyone, so maybe that's why they haven't pulled the cord?

  However, as time has progressed, I see that no matter how you look at it, around any JW's, you are always going to have to pretend in some way. Is that what real friendship is? I don't think so.

  And so I am working on forming relationships outside of the org. It's coming along well, except for..... the still-believing-wife part. Oh well.

  Thanks for all the new comments.

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  Regular pioneering ... not going to college or university is a wise decision that will make you happy. Watchtower June 15, 2012

  by wannabefree in

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  from - the watchtower (simplified) june 15, 2012 pg.

  25 par.

  15. what goal should a young christian have while he is in school?.

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  Hey wannabefree, this one has a briefcase! Future elders!!

  

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  Can you take part in a very modern discussion?

  by nicolaou in

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  note to mods.

  i guess this might break posting guideline 8 but it really is just a bit of fun.

  pm me if you're concerned or don't understand what's going on.. nic'.

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  Cool nicolaou!

  To all who "can't see" the message, if you have an iPhone, or perhaps some other smartphone, download a free app called RedLaser. The light will get brighter.

  And thou shall seeth the message.....

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  Watchtower Career Brochure

  by Alfred in

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  watchtower careers.

  would you like to have the most fulfilling career available on earth?consider the great privilege of becoming one of jehovahs witnesses.

  we have many titles and classifications* that you can aspire to as you work towards your salvation.

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  If you've left JWs for Christ - will the end still come?

  by flamegrilled in

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  something i don't see supported much on jwn is the notion that the end of this system is indeed coming, even if later than wts has predicted over the years.. now for those that have left and become complete non-believers (in the bible) that is understandable.

  you guys are welcome to comment of course, but i'm far more interested in some feedback from the people who have left jws and pursued a christian course.

  are you still convinced that there will be a war of armaggedon or do you now interpret the scriptures a different way?.

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  I can't remember the 'Most Important Date of My Life!' Can you?

  by Diest in

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  i honestly cant remember the exact date when i was baptized.

  it does not bother me one bit.

  i didnt have it stamped in that shitty reasoning book/babel that i got at the time, so i guess the only place i could find it would be my cards, which are far away..

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  The actual date I do know. But it may be TMI right now.

  I'll just say I was 17. Not ready for marriage, or life, but ready to serve the org God forever.

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  What part of "TRUE" needs "adjustment"?

  by Terry in

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  let us conduct a thought experiment!.

  let's say you work for a huge investment firm run by a brilliant ceo who has a perfect track record for business decisions.. the ceo sends e-mails, text messages and makes phone calls from his remote island hideaway heaven island.. none of the employees ever actually see him.

  they rely on his hand-picked leaders sitting in the big office on the top floor of the corporate building.. these leaders pass along the transmitted instructions as conduits.. what would ever destroy confidence in these hand-picked leaders as competent and honest brokers?

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  Terry, your thread makes too much sense. I want to go back to being blind and confused.

  As always, thanks for an insightful and thought provoking thread.

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  Was it EX JW literature / WT's or the BIBLE which woke you up? Post scriptures if any....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  i considered myself immune to ex jw stuff.

  no amount of old watchtowers or anything would change me.

  it was seeing treatment of others by elders and the bible itself, which woke me.

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  BUMP for newbies
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  I Was Offered A Bible Study By The Elders

  by minimus in

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  2 elders, the cobe and his sidekick, a former bethelite and a young ms (elder in waiting) stopped by my mom's home while i was visiting with her.

  they were very congenial and eventually asked me if i got invited to the memorial and whether they could arrange a future visit with me and a possible study.

  i thanked them and told them i appreciated their invitation but that i was going to "pass at this time" but thanked them for their concern.. they recited a "wonderful experience" about a young man that was raised in the "truth" but wanted out so he decided to go to asia where he could not be found by witnesses.

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  Yes, yes! Accept the study! The great day is hours away!
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  If you felt/feel that you had/have good, close "friends" in the org, how did/does it feel to just give them up?

  by Crisis of Conscience in

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  2. friends

  this is my biggest dilema.

  although mentally i really feel i could walk away from the org right now, i still have genuine love for the people i have come to know over the years.

  i love people!.

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  BTTT